Knee Deep in Gay Switzerland

This week, Cady and Sharilyn take you on a whirlwind ride through the worlds of non-monogamy, queer identity, ADHD life hacks (or lack thereof), and all that jazz (yes, we’re talking musicals). 🎶

Expect spicy takes on relationship dynamics, chaotic tangents that only ADHD kids can deliver, and heartfelt discussions on what it means to be queer and thriving. 

Tune in for laughs, feels, and the kind of conversations that feel like a night with your besties—weed optional, chaos guaranteed. 

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Chapters

• 8:55 Kitchen Table Polyamory Explained
• 11:40 Exploring Queer Identity and Late Blooming
• 19:51 Poly Origin Stories
• 27:24 Diversities in Polyamory Practices
• 34:14 Who TF is this Cady person anyway??
• 40:39 Pls Tell Us About the Goddess Divine that is Sharilyn
• 44:22 Don't Get Me Started: Top 5 Musicals

Transcript

Transcript of Episode 1: Knee Deep in Gay Switzerland

Transcribed by Radikal Rose

Cady: (00:00) 

Cady here! In case you missed it, we decided to split our initial first episode into two episodes. 

So if you haven't listened to episode zero, where we introduced the podcast and a little bit of our lore, go back and do that. 

All right. You done? You ready for episode one? Cool. Enjoy Knee Deep in the Passenger Seat.

Sharilyn: (00:20) 

Honestly, okay, we're supposed to segue to introductions about ourselves here, but like, let's fucking pivot and let's explain our origin story. Let's talk polyamory. Let's give some definitions. 

[Knee Deep Intro Music. Groovy synth-pop with techno vocals plays, with a robotic voice saying “Knee deep in the passenger seat.” The song ends with a playful chime].

Cady: (01:01)

For folks who are not in the non-monogamous polyamorous world, I want to give a couple of definitions for you first. This is the educator and me talking. So some words that we're going to use.

You've already heard us use the word metamour. A metamour is your partner's partner. So for example, my husband has a girlfriend who is my wife-in-law who I do this podcast with. She is my metamour. 

[Giddy sounds of affirmation from Sharilyn.]

Cady: (01:25)

There's also polycule, which is interesting. This actually came up at a polycule gathering on Sunday, like that people's definitions of polycule is kind of different. But the like…

Generic educator term is it's a network of people who are linked by like romantic and sexual relationships. So to me, I define my polycule as my husband, my boyfriend,

my sweet wife-in-law here.

I was doing a check-in with my boyfriend, we had date night and for what it's worth, I'm going to use partner pretty like–most often you'll hear me say partner–

Sharilyn: (02:05)

Liberally.

Cady: (02:06)

Yeah, I don't usually use, boyfriend and girl–like, or husband, it all kind of makes me feel a little weird sometimes. So I'll be using partner pretty interchangeably. And if you get confused, that's fair. Sorry, not sorry.

But so was doing a check-in with my partner last night and I was like, I think that my definition of polycule are like the people who you would drop your shit for to go show up for them

Which I recognize is like more of a generic, like chosen family than necessarily a polycule, which is a very queer experience and something that a lot of folks in the queer community are comfortable and familiar with is the idea of chosen family. 

And that's kind of how I view mine. So like my polycule, if I'm talking in a strict polyamory definition is what I just described. 

But some people include literally everybody who's linked to them in a sexual way. It's really very, so those are some definitions. 

Sharilyn, I will [tsk tsk sound] pass it off to you to share some origin story, because I think you're an incredible storyteller. So please tell us, how did this magic happen?

Sharilyn: (02:57) 

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much. 

Cady: (03:02)

How did this magic happen? 

Sharilyn: (03:06)

How did this magic happen? What's the origin of the magic? So back in, when COVID actually first hit, I had been doing some online content to make a bit of money. I was a stay at home mom, obviously very isolated. And my, our shared partner ended up finding me on one of my platforms where I…would expose myself. [Giggles from both women.]

Cady: (03:34) 

Professionally!

Sharilyn: (03:36) 

Yes, absolutely. And they were–

Cady: (03:38) 

Just laying all of your big, beautiful emotions out to be O-golds. [More giggles]

Sharilyn: (03:44) Yes, I was jiggling–I was, those emotions were clapping on cam. So, so, so we made those emotions clap. And from what I remember, our shared partner became a follower of mine and was kind of, I'm not gonna lie, if I remember correctly, was kind of talking to themselves in a message, messages to me for a little while before I kind of, like, really actually invested time.

Cady: (03:49)

That checks out. That checks out. Which like, I will–I'm going to interject here briefly to say that like this story is a unicorn of a story. If you are someone who engages with online content creators, please do not expect that they like are going to become your girlfriend. Like that is an unreasonable expectation. And–

Sharilyn: (04:35) 

Oh, yeah!

Cady: (04:33) 

Please respect the boundaries of the relationship. [In a silly voice] Anyway! So he was talking to himself.

Sharilyn: (04:34) 

No, you're fine. Yes. And for what it's worth, I don't think he was seeking. I don't think he was speaking with me as in like seeking, like a girlfriend or anything. 

I think he was just interacting with some of my content, which was like really, you know, obviously there's many, many men who do that. 

So for me, I think one of my platforms, I'd mentioned something about being in an open relationship or swinging or something like that.

And he had responded, was like, my wife and I are actually in an open relationship, we're also non-monogamous. 

And that kind of caught my attention because for me, although there are other content creators online, not all of them identify necessarily as non-monogamous or are part of polyamorous circles. 

I think certainly now there's a lot more who, they are polyamorous and then they jump to platforms to share content or whatever.

But I think even like five, you know, four or five years ago, it was not as common. It was mostly just for content creators and their partners or whatever. Or, you know, professionals in the industry. 

And so that kind of caught my eye. And then we got to talking and I remember he, he was so bold and like, it's funny because he's like, I wouldn't say he's like a spicy man, but he was, he was like very bold and he sent me a picture of you two smiling together. 

And he's like, yeah, here's a picture of my wife, just because I know you're probably wondering. And I was like...

Cady: (05:54) 

[Flustered giggling] That's so cute.

Sharilyn: (05:56) 

I was, but I would never admit that to a man! 

Cady: (06:00) 

Yes!

Sharilyn: (06:01)

And I was like, and then I saw you and I was like, she has the sweetest smile. She's so sweet. And yeah, and then from there, the conversation just kind of kind of continued and kind of flowed. 

And so first time I actually met our partner, I had been in the area–keep in mind, this is a very specific area of the country that I just so happened to be visiting. 

And so, yeah, and I went up and saw him. We had a first date and I actually got to meet Cady on our first date. I don't know if you remember that–

Cady: (06:33)

I do! Yeah! Mm-hmm.

Sharilyn: (06:44) 

But you were also on a date, and he had, the man who came over had brought you cookies. And I remember being really nervous. 

This was, I mean, he was really my first, for so many things as far as being in an open relationship. This was like my first big date. This was my first big anything. And it was, it was magical. 

It was one of those first dates where like you go on and like the whole time on your way home, you're like cheesing. And I thought it was–honestly, for a lot of people, and I will say a lot of non-monogs sometimes get a little wary of like, meeting a primary partner on a first date. 

Cady: (07:10)

Yeah!

Sharilyn: (07:11) 

For me, I had no kind of, like I–I had no way to determine what was normal, what was not, because this is my first time, but I am so glad that I did because I felt good about it after. 

And from then on, that was kind of like the little seed inkling of my desire and my actual like affection towards kitchen table poly, which Cady, I wonder if you can go ahead and tell the folks about kitchen table, what that entails as far as dynamics.

Cady: (07:41) 

Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I first though, want to like–listening to you tell this is like making my heart just melt. But also I'm laughing because like I forgot that I met you on y'all's first date and like and we–and we played together, the three of us like, very shortly thereafter. 

Sharilyn: (08:03)

Couple months after.

Cady: (08:05)

Like there's just a lot of shit, there's a lot of shit that we did that if that I don't think I would do now.

Sharilyn: (08:10) 

No, absolutely!

Cady: (08:09) 

And it's because we were so new that we were like, fuck it, let's do it, let's try, let's see what happens. And I think that we honestly just got so fucking lucky in who we each are as individuals and in who our hinge partner is because like–

Sharilyn: (08:24) 

Absolutely.

Cady: (08:25)

We, I just, think we got so fucking lucky with the chemistry here and [with playful aggression], I just love you so fucking much. Okay, anyway.

Sharilyn: (08:27) 

I love you too. Also, and before KTP, I also want to say that I think for you guys also, you guys were also, because of that, you guys were also relatively newer to poly. I think you guys have been doing it for like a year or so at that point. 

Cady: (08:39)

No, barely!

Sharilyn: (08:41)

And you guys had just been, yeah, I think you guys had also just gotten married, like a couple months into your married life when him and I met. And so I feel like we've really grown into this together.

Cady: (08:50)

Yeah, that's very, true. Yeah, okay, so you said KTP. I was like, what the fuck does that mean? Kitchen table poly. So let me explain, kitchen–kitchen table polyamory is...

Like exactly what it sounds like. 

It's the idea that everybody, all the metamours, all the partners are incorporated together, sitting around the table together. And there's a lot of love and a lot of collaboration and a lot of interaction. 

That is not the model of polyamory that everybody wants, and there are a lot of people who like really, really don't want that, but that is something that I learned early on from Sharilyn that I wanted.

And like who I think part of it for me is that I have always like community has always been one of my core values. And so the idea of like, having my partner love someone and them not being incorporated into my community is like, wait, what the fuck?

Sharilyn: (09:42)

Yeah, yeah.

Cady: (09:43)

Like I want to love who you love, which has you know, caused some problems, but that'll be for later, later episodes. We could, we could, oh my gosh, that actually would be a fun episode of just going through all of the poly fuckups. Anyway.

[Laughter from Sharilyn.]

Sharilyn: (09:47) 

No, absolutely. No, I think that is really important because we have not, although we wax poetic about how much we love each other and how lucky we are, we've had to learn a lot of things along the way. 

Cady: (10:11) 

Yeah, yeah.

Sharilyn: (10:08)

Not just our hinge partner and our connection, with other connections in a cerebral sense have informed how we continue moving forward and growing between us, for sure.

Cady: (10:20)

Okay, from what I recall, is that the first time that we broached the subject of polyamory or like open relationships, non-monogamy was summer 2019 because I read the Song of Achilles–

Sharilyn: (10:34)

Absolutely.

Cady: (10:35)

Which is an incredible book by Madeline Miller. And it has some really, really, really yummy sex between Patroclus and Achilles who are two men. 

And I was like, God, this is so hot. I want an MMF threesome so bad. God, I'm gonna have to tell my family they're not allowed to listen to this podcast.

[Laughter.]

Cady: (10:50) 

And by family, I specifically mean my parents. 

Sharilyn: (10:59)

Absolutely.

Cady: (11:00)

Anyway, I texted him and I was like, this is really hot, I wanna do it. And he was like, um…[stuttering] I'm not gay. Like I'm not even bi. Like I'm not like, and I'm like, but like, could you try just like for me? 

And he was like, no, but like if you want that, let's talk about it. And then, you I was away at camp. [Bashfully] I was literally a summer camp counselor while this was happening.

[Laughter.]

Cady: (11:23) LOL. We'll get into my backstory soon and then also this will make more sense.

Sharilyn: (11:27) Yeah, you're trying to direct children and you're having those like flashbacks and you're like, oh God.

Cady: (11:32) I'm like, oh God, I have to leave. I gotta get out of this. Yeah, so segue to...another sponsor break that is not a sponsor and then we're back!

And, all these bullet points about myself that I just don't even know where to start. Let's start at the very beginning. 

So I was born and raised in Sacramento, California. I was born in May. It was really hot. [Giggling from Sharilyn.] I was born in the morning, really early. I am a Taurus Sun. I am a Leo moon. I am a Taurus rising. I am a Taurus Venus. 

I am very, very deeply stubborn. Um, I'm also queer, which is something that I did not actually... I didn't let myself... 

Sharilyn: (12:14) 

[Mocking surprise] We never would have guessed!

Cady: (12:23)

I didn't let myself… I don't know, my queer origin story is very... I'm really excited for you to get Sharilyn’s because hers is so fucking cute, but mine was very messy and confusing and there will–

Honestly, I'm writing this down, we'll do a whole queer origin story episode, I think, because there is just so much of mine worth sharing–

Sharilyn: (12:47)

Absolutely.

Cady: (12:39) 

Because it involved a lot of tears and a lot of like sex with women that I didn't realize was sex. But like taking a bath together and making out and touching each other is totally sex. Fun fact, y'all. [Giggles]

Anyway, so I didn't even identify as queer until 2020. So I identify as a late bloomer. I have a lot of imposter syndrome that, like, I'm not gay enough, which, like, I know that a lot of us have that. 

I am currently still healing and reeling from my first queer breakup that like, ripped my heart out of my body and was pretty awful. And that was just this spring. 

Sharilyn: (13:25)

Yeah.

Cady: (13:26)

So like, we're still in some like, healing with our queer identity because when you've had so many of your queer experiences tied to one specific person and then they just like, dip from your life, it's a little bit weird. But one of the things that I...

Sharilyn: (13:34)

You can say traumatic and not weird. I'll allow it. 

Cady: (13:39)

Yeah, yeah. Traumatic. Fair. 

Sharilyn: (13:38)

You’re like, it's so weird that that happened, it was like kind of spooky and odd.

Cady: (13:43) 

No, no, you're right. You're right. Deeply traumatizing and like, really fucked me up, y'all. 

Sharilyn: (13:49)

There we go. Absolutely.

Cady: (13:50)

And but one of the things that I love about my–about queerness and not necessarily my queerness,

But queerness and specifically the overlap of queerness and polyamory that has really come to be so core to my understanding of myself and my relationships over the last four and a half years has been the ability to shape shift, to allow relationships to shape shift. 

And so to have the transition from platonic to romantic to sexual and back and have that be safe and comfortable and okay. And like, yes, there are definitely relationships where I wish there had been more conversation about those transitions. 

But for the most part, the ability for those types of relationship dynamics to exist feels very uniquely queer. 

And so my queer identity, often comes from relationships and my relationship styles and less from like my actual sexuality, even though like I really do be wanting to put my face in some titties sometimes. [Giggles]

Like all the time. Sharilyn, literally, when we got on this call and I was talking about being nervous, she was like, and I'm sorry, my titties aren't even on camera. And I'm like, I know! What's gonna help me feel better?

Sharilyn: (15:05) I know. Yeah, these–these emotional support puppies, if you will. They're service dogs. [Hysterical giggling]

Cady: (15:13) 

Yes, absolutely. I love it. I love it.

Sharilyn: (15:25) 

That’s foul. So, I think–one point that I think is really interesting is I hear kind of a congruence for you as far as imposter syndrome and late-blooming queerness. 

Pretty early on, like age four, knew I was not straight, and still have imposter syndrome. So it is not a you thing. 

I think imposter syndrome, for multiple reasons we can get into, I think when we have an episode discussing queerness, can strike at any time and can be prevalent in different amounts, kind of, throughout your exploration of what queerness means to you and how that grows. 

For me, I knew I was queer early on. Um, I think I was about four or five, and as any neurodivergent kid has their hyper fixations, I would watch The Mask. 

I mean, The Mask, the movie like with Jim Carrey with the green face, I would watch that on VHS over and over and over again. 

Like I think my parents were probably concerned. [Stuttering] I didn't think I thought Jim Carrey was actually really terrifying, but it was because Tina Carlisle, played by Cameron Diaz…I would just stare at her. I would just stare at her. 

There's this one scene where she has like this red lipstick, this red dress, and she like walks into a bank or something like that. 

Like that, like I remember watching that and being like, I feel funny. Like, before I even could conceptualize what sexuality was. I remember my first experience with feeling any kind of attraction or desire or that something feels right.

Before even men, was for a woman, was for her at like age four. I had never had that feeling towards anyone before that I had seen. So that to me, was something.

Cady: (17:03) 

Was that your first crush? Like, was that like your first...

Sharilyn: (17:10) 

Um, I think so. No, actually, my sister will say it was Gumby. But I honestly think Gumby is non binary. I had a Gumby toy. I had a Gumby stuffed animal that I would say I was married to. 

I think there's photos somewhere will be burned shortly after we're done recording this. But the non binary blob man–person, sorry, they. So, Gumby was my first honestly.

Cady: (17:30) 

That's incredible. I mean, who knows? That's incredible. Mine was Simba. like, there's something to unpack there for sure. And to be clear, not Jonathan Taylor Thomas. I'm talking Simba. I'm talking the lion cub. [Giggle]

Sharilyn: (17:50) 

There is something wildly inherently erotic about Simba and I'll just say that.

Yeah. Yeah. We also need to have a Hear Me Out episode because yeah, there's something inherently sexual about that animated animal and we can get into that. 

But yeah, so for me it was the Gumby to Cameron Diaz pipeline in my queer exploration journey. Um, I had–so I recognized this part of myself, but I very much repressed it. 

And this is ‘cause I grew up in a very Christian household, like going to church every Sunday, I went to Catholic school. You know, my family was all Christian. I was from a very conservative small town, Alberta. 

And so it was something that I always, it was almost like something that always sat in the back of my head. And I just, if I look this way, I don't have to acknowledge it. I know it's there. It's festering. 

It's just kind of sitting back there, but I don't, if I don't look at it directly in the eyes, it doesn't exist. And so, my queerness kind of started to come out, not necessarily in a sexual way

But in way I express myself and the way I surrounded myself with people, and that came out in fourth grade. I best friends–his name was Jason. He was like, the only like gay boy in our school, like in...

He would like to like, put on girls clothes and we shaved his legs for the first time. We were in fifth grade or something like that. And I felt so close and this sense of familiarity with this person,

Even though at the time I was like, [mockingly, in a silly voice] I'm not gay. Obviously I was, but yeah, I felt this kinship with this person. And then, you know, for me is when self-expression kind of started to become a thing as it does when you're you hit around like 10,

I–because I felt different inside because of my queerness immediately went into other counterculture communities like dressing emo and scene and like, you know the punk scene and music scene, all the kids were kind of outcasts like, I always felt so much more aligned with them.

Cady: (19:52) 

Mmm.

Sharilyn: (19:51) 

Versus kids who were the popular or the preppy kids. And I think that's because it felt safe to be around others who felt other. And I knew the reason for why I felt other. 

And I didn't say it out loud to anyone, because it was easier to be made fun of because I was a scene kid or an emo than it was because I was very, very queer. My first actual exploration into poly was when I was 13 or 14, one of my first boyfriends was also bisexual.

Cady: (20:19) Mmm, mm-hmm.

Sharilyn: (20:20) 

And he also was like, experimenting and was kind of dating our other friend who was a guy. And they would hold hands and we would just go along and I kind of accepted it. 

And my sister actually had reminded me of that story and I was like, oh! That was kind of my first poly, queer relationship when I was like, 13, 14. And it was like, this boy that I was, he's the one who I lost my virginity to, all of that. I...

Cady: (20:42) 

Awh!

Sharilyn: (20:46) 

You know, he just they wanted to explore things and I was just cool with it and I was just happy and I just wasn't a big deal. when I was reflection, I was like, that that makes a lot of sense. 

So I ended up leaving the Catholic Christian Church, around eighth grade. that was after a religious studies class where teacher had, you know, talked about how the gays are going to burn in hell. 

And for me, that was, you know, my friend, Jason, I had that was some of my other friends that I had, that was my boyfriend that I had, that was me. 

And so I just could no longer be part of the church and not really hearing that, you know, knowing that that is a tenant of the church, but hearing it said so viscerally really was the kind of beginning of the deconstruction for me.

Cady: (21:30) 

Hmm.

Sharilyn Wester (21:33) And so, yeah, and then so after leaving the church, I kind of recognized and embraced that part of myself a little more.

Cady (21:38) Can I?

I'm so glad your sister

you of that like early non-monogamy poly experience that is so like, that is so fucking cute. And so like how cool of you. Like I was like my earliest,

Sharilyn Wester (21:47) Yeah.

Cady (21:55) experiences with non-monogamy was that basically every single breakup that I ever went through until I became non-monogamous happened because I started developing feelings for someone else. And I was like, that must mean that I don't love my partner anymore. I guess I had to break up with them because like, I don't want to cheat on them. And it's like, alternatively, what if there had been safety and space to like, explore and like see what felt good and see what stuck and like,

Sharilyn Wester (22:10) Yeah.

For that.

Cady (22:23) The idea of being able to do that at like 14 is bananas. That is so cool. like, I wish that I had known Teenage U. I just, I think I would have been very intimidated. I'm going to be honest, but.

Sharilyn Wester (22:26) Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I was scared of everything and everyone no, I it would have been really really interesting to see the intersection of like where you came in and where I came in especially at that age because I think obviously when you're teenager there's a lot of like the little seedlings or the little inklings of like who will you then thus become think it would have been really interesting I feel like I would have loved that. That makes me happy.

Cady (22:58) Yeah.

Cady Moore (23:00) Cady here with an aside to say that Sharilyn and I are gamer gorillas at heart. So coming up, we're going to use some terms from the gaming world, including op, which means opposition, and NPC, which is a non-playable character. A non-playable character is exactly that. It's a character that beep boops around the game and you can't play with them, but you can interact with them.

Cady (23:20) But for most of my life, my ADHD felt like my biggest opp. It felt like there was something wrong with me, that I was too much, that I took up space, that I caused problems, that I couldn't do the things that other people could do. And like really, really deeply harmed my sense of self-worth and identity. And I...

Sharilyn Wester (23:31) Too much.

Cady (23:47) moving into adulthood and honestly starting to work for myself really freed me from those narratives and gave me space to heal some of those narratives. And I did that by spending more time with other neurodivergent people because like all of a sudden it's like, no, the world is just not built for you. And that's okay. Cause like I was diagnosed when I was seven and I was medicated shortly thereafter. And like my diagnosis story is, is

Sharilyn Wester (24:02) Absolutely.

Yeah.

Cady (24:16) traumatic as fuck to be honest, content warning here

Cady Moore (24:19) Cady here again. I actually decided to pull this little piece from the final product for both Brevity and Levity. So, you're welcome.

Cady (24:28) parents were like, this is not normal. Like this is not okay. We should probably get some help. And so I was diagnosed with ADHD very young, medicated very young, and I am fully supportive of medication.

like full stop. And I think that there's a lot of mindfulness practices that can be really helpful that you can try without medication. But like to be very clear, your body, your choice, and that extends to medication, but I am very pro, I'm very pro meds. I'm just not pro meds without other things being put into place to help you. But so I've like, I've been living knowing that I was ADHD for 25 years.

Sharilyn Wester (25:05) Yeah.

Cady (25:14) which has made it possible for me to build a life for myself in which I can thrive and also have ADHD. And I feel very, very lucky to have had this much experience because I have been able to develop these skills without having significant setbacks because of it.

feel very lucky and privileged to have had the support that I've had and to have been able to build the systems that I have. And also I just like, I love hanging out with other neuro-spicy people. And sometimes I forget that not everybody is like me until I end up in a room full of neuro-typicals. And I'm like,

Whoa, where am I? This feels like the Twilight Zone.

Sharilyn Wester (26:01) Absolutely. Well, yeah, think especially, that's one thing that I really love, I feel like there's a huge intersection and is the cause of intersection between people who are queer and poly and neurodivergent is being in spaces that suddenly feel safe that can advocate for yourself little more clearly and to be understood a little more.

than in neurotypical, maybe heteronormative, spaces, they are not taught the language through experience on how to to someone who needs extra assistance or behaves in a way that they aren't really sure to do with. Yeah, I feel that part. Absolutely, a combination.

Cady (26:32) Bye

Mm-hmm, accommodation. Like our couples therapist called it accommodation in therapy the other week and I was like, shit. And so that like, that also really aligns with non-monogamy and kink because those are communities in which communication is really key and collaboration is really key. And so if you're someone who needs accommodations in your relationships, what better community to be a part of than one that is built around

Sharilyn Wester (26:51) Mm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Cady (27:08) collaborating on building a relationship that works for you. And I just feel so grateful to have landed here. Like, I don't know. I don't know, man. It's just a lot. There's a lot of feelings in here.

Sharilyn Wester (27:12) Absolutely.

lot of feelings up in this club right now.

I think one thing that we actually haven't talked about is our ways of actually, even though we are connected as metamors and as, sorry, as wife in-laws, different ways that we personally practice polyamory, even within that, because you and I have different styles and structures and based on our own experiences and whatnot.

Cady (27:33) You

Mmm!

Sharilyn Wester (27:44) me, I think one thing we talked about earlier was kitchen table poly. the style where everyone is welcome at a kitchen table. Everyone is is welcome to come and to hang out. And it doesn't mean you have to be the bestest of bestest of best close metamorph friends like we are, but it means you are welcome. I would say the opposite of that or on the other side of that would be say a parallel poly, which is like you date here, you stay in your lane.

So I also identify as kitchen table poly am solo poly meaning that I do not have a partner who's considered an anchor partner So I don't have someone who I live with sometimes referred to as a nesting partner who is someone you live with I Don't necessarily have a hierarchy to my partnerships solo poly for me means that I am not dating

people a pre-established hierarchy or unit. I make my connections based solely on myself and my connection to them. of my partners actually are partnered other people who are either anchor partners, primary partners, or nesting partners. And so I'm kind of like out here in the wild west, like jumping from little plot to plot.

Cady (28:55) It's so cute.

Sharilyn Wester (28:55) Just like being everyone's, yeah, I don't want to say being everyone's thirds because it's not necessarily like that, but I'm just like the little bonus like beep beep beep for a lot of my my partnerships. Yeah.

Cady (29:03) You're like, you're like an, you're like the NPC, but like you're not an NPC, obviously, but I'm just picturing this like fun, voluptuous, silly NPC that just like pops in bringing joy wherever she goes. Like that.

Sharilyn Wester (29:16) I move into everyone's Animal Crossing Village and welcome.

Cady (29:19) Yes, and it's so and it's so fucking cute. I love it.

But this was actually one of the things that Sharilyn and I went live on Instagram about for the first time was was talking about and one of the conversations that we had where we were like, God, we need a podcast was talking about hierarchical polyamory, because one of the

One of things that we have noticed about polyamory content creators is like a lot of shade being thrown at polyamory that's practiced in a hierarchy. So meaning that there's one partner who is primary and then another partner who's secondary and like one is prioritized over the other. And what we came to the conclusion of is that like polyamorous content creators are creating for the masses and they for the most part are also taking on a responsibility of like

protecting their community and keeping people safe. And there are definitely people who are practicing hierarchical polyamory in very yucky ways that cause harm. What works for us doesn't have to be for everyone else. And so we were like, okay, I guess we can just not take this personally. But

Cool, cool. So I practice hierarchical ish polyamory and what by ish I mean that like

So I have a, I have a nesting partner and anchor partner is my husband, my spouse. and we have like our core relationship and part of negotiating poly was having the security of knowing that like our marriage and our relationship will be priority when it comes to emotional energy that we are expending. with that being said, like, we don't have veto power, meaning like we don't

say to the other person like, I don't like this new person you're dating, you can't date them. It's really more about the energy and commitment that we are making, making sure that we're leaving enough time for each other. Especially because he and I are very different humans. And so we sometimes have to like, really be intentional about making sure that we spend time together. Because when you've been together with someone for 10 years, you start to kind of fall into not maintaining that relationship. And so

that is where our hierarchy comes from is like a mutual agreement that we need to make sure that we are continuing to prioritize this relationship. And so if that means putting it into the rank of highest priority, then that's what we do. But that's something that has worked really well for us, except for in one relationship, which is for another episode. But like, and I can't necessarily speak for, but she's right here. So was like, I don't have to speak for Sheri-Lynn.

But I think that we have done a really good job as a team of navigating that together and making sure that it doesn't feel like other people are being deprioritized in order to lift up our marriage. It's more of that being at the core of how he and I move through our relationships. Yeah, so does that describe like how our hierarchy works? that, how did that feel? How did that land?

Sharilyn Wester (32:24) Yeah, mean, I feel I feel yeah, absolutely. I mean, I feel like obviously you guys have a hierarchy and for a lot of people who have a hierarchy, whether it's because they're married or because their partner is a nesting partner and that naturally or they they share children with someone and so they need to prioritize that core connection on behalf of the wellness of the household. feel like

Cady (32:39) Mm-hmm.

Sharilyn Wester (32:46) It's when a hierarchy gets weaponized for sure. And it can easily slip into that without people knowing or being able to advocate against that. I think that's when it can become very quickly toxic. And so I think to do a hierarchy well, creates a lot of, there's a lot of communication between all parties and, you know, new parties entering into the dynamic. As long as they're well aware of that, they can either choose that it's, this is not kind of part of the dynamic that they also want to be involved in.

or it's fine for them based on their needs, which is when I came in, I was like, yeah, that's totally fine that you guys prioritize each other. I have two children. still, you know, I'm working on myself. okay, you know, and for me right now with a lot of partners who nested or anchored or whatever with other people that works for me I can't step in and do that. I think also,

for people who are critical of any kind of hierarchy, I do think that also of a bad light on other non-monog people like swingers, who are part of the community. And lot of, for a lot of like dom sub dynamics where dom, if you have a formal dom situation, they are your priority and what they say kind of goes. And so I feel like people crit...

Cady (33:46) Yeah.

Sharilyn Wester (34:00) criticize hierarchy as a whole. It's yeah, it's kind of against a lot of our folks.

Cady Moore (34:07) Here's where we would put a sponsor break if we had sponsors, but instead enjoy this silly sound effect.

Cady (34:15) So for those of you who haven't picked up on it or who don't already know me, I am an AASECT certified sex educator. What that means is that I have gone through an extensive process of education and getting a thousand hours of work experience to get certified by the American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors and Therapists who

are the primary certifying body for those professions. That certification came about, came about. I earned my certification in April of this year after taking a little bit of time off. It's been a messy couple of years. I don't know if, I'm like, don't know if you know, but there was a global trauma or two. But I...

Sharilyn Wester (34:52) Hehehehehe

Cady (35:02) started in sex education working as an abortion counselor, which spoiler alert, our next episode is going to be with a labor and delivery nurse and an abortion activist, which we're really, really excited about. So like get ready, y'all. But so I started off in abortion care and recognized very quickly that I didn't have the emotional capacity as an empath to be an activist, or at least not in that capacity.

And so, recognized that a lot of the pregnant people that I was talking to had very little education because I was working with folks in Texas and New Mexico and Wisconsin and just places where sex ed is not accessible. And I was like, shit, this is where it is. Sex ed, this is it. And so I applied for a master's program at the University of Minnesota, which is where I also got my undergrad.

They have a really incredible maternal and child health program. So I applied to get my master's in public health in maternal and child health with an emphasis on sex education and sex education policy, which I graduated in 2020. But met my mentor through my final project and realized like, I don't actually want to do policy. That's just what my family wanted me to do. I actually want to do the educating. And so

Sharilyn Wester (36:21) Yeah, absolutely.

Cady (36:26) That's when my journey towards being a sex educator started. So I've been practicing sex education for, well, for over a decade, I have been a sex educator, but I started my own business in 2021 and haven't been really like all in balls to the wall since 2022. I specialize in, honestly, I specialize in whatever the fuck my current hyperfixation is, which is funny. And I don't want to say hyperfixation because it's really more of like,

Sharilyn Wester (36:29) Yeah.

Absolutely.

Cady (36:54) So much of what I've learned has been because it's been relevant to me or someone I care about. So like I am now a Volvo vaginal wellness expert after two years of recurring bacterial vaginosis, which I talk a lot about on my Instagram and on my blog, and I can talk about it here. But so I'm a Volvo vaginal wellness pro. I'm a menstrual health pro. I talk a lot about sex work and online censorship of sex workers and how that impacts sex education.

Sharilyn Wester (37:08) Yes, yes. I love that.

Cady (37:24) wait, are you waving at me or are counting all my specialties? You're so cute. You're so cute. Yeah, non-monogamy, kink, queer sex ed has been a really, really big one for me because the sex ed we've gotten is very P in the V and like risk avoidance oriented and that is doing us all a disservice. And finally, pleasure exploration and communication, which for me is like really tied to querying your sex ed.

Sharilyn Wester (37:27) I'm counting. I'm counting. Wait,

Yeah.

Cady (37:52) because all of a sudden it's about pleasure and like we don't necessarily care about rushing to penetration and orgasm. There's so much more to it. So like there is, I don't wanna say there's nothing that I specialize in, but there's a lot that I'm interested in talking about. We're gonna talk about that all here. And my dream is to start a sexual wellness collective and retail space here in Sacramento.

Sharilyn Wester (38:00) Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Mm-hmm.

Cady (38:17) I was spoiled by living in Minneapolis and Seattle. They both have very inclusive and queer sex shops and here we do not have that. The only independently owned sex shop is primarily for men who sleep with men, which is fine, but that is not what me or any of my coaching clients are really looking for. So really the dream is building a retail space. Yeah, building a retail space and event space that can be used by our community to educate each other and others. So.

Sharilyn Wester (38:36) Or community,

Cady (38:45) That is me, that is the expertise that I am bringing into this space. am also, I was a Jewish educator for six years. I identify as a Jew witch. So I'm witchy, I do tarot and ritual. I'm not necessarily an astro girly. do like, I believe in it, but I joke that astrology is for math brains and I am just like not a math brain. Like I'm just not, I'm more of like an herbal, I'm a green witch and a tarot witch.

Sharilyn Wester (38:45) Absolutely.

Cady (39:15) I am a plant mom. have 92 something plants. I think more since I last counted. I love my jungle. I am a snake mom. I have a ball python named Lilith who lives literally right next to me. If you're watching the video of this, I'm pointing to it. And she's great though. did pee and poop on me last week, which was actually one of the most upsetting experience. I was gonna say it was the most upsetting experience that I've had in a really long time.

Sharilyn Wester (39:38) It's really sweet.

That's how I show my love.

Cady (39:46) I poop poop pee pee. And then finally, before I turn the mic over to Sharilyn to share more about herself, while we were writing out this, she gave me the gentle pushback. She said, I noticed that you didn't put anything on here about being an artist. And I was like, I know, I know. I just added it. I am also an artist. I love to paint. I love to create. I also love to write.

Sharilyn Wester (40:06) I did it.

Cady (40:14) I have imposter syndrome as a formerly gifted and talented child, but I love both of those things. And so I have been trying to identify as an artist more, but I do, I do love to do it. And Sharilyn is also an incredible artist, but I will let her talk about herself a little bit. And then I need to, and then I need to take a bio break.

Sharilyn Wester (40:36) That's

for me am an artist. I've always been an artist artistic

modalities are photography. was a photographer for quite a bit, probably about five years now. a poet, I write poetry, I'm a painter, I draw, I sculpt, do digital art and I write. thing that would say is part of the expertise I am working on in building that I also have experience in is working with marginalized communities within

social justice was a residential support worker for a few years my early, early young adulthood. And that really me. I'm the child of two therapists. My mother was a child mental health therapist and my dad worked with patients with BPD. TheraSpeak was always kind of something I was exposed to in my house.

I'm currently a bachelor's of social work student. justice has always been important to me. I've always attended actually doing photography and like photojournalism for movements like Black Lives Matter, for women's rights movements, of that. now I am kind of both my artistic capacity and my love of social justice and my experience working with marginalized communities together.

social work. So currently, like I said, I'm a bachelor's of social work student. I'll be going on to get my master's of social work and my LCSW after that. I will be specializing in art therapy for youth, marginalized communities. really want to take and apply it to community as a whole, of targeting youth, especially.

queer adults, of color, challenged folks, know, working in schools, designing programs, I think later on will come my children are grown and out the house, I'll then be pursuing a doctorate and I would love to start publishing. that's kind of the trajectory I'm on. It's taken a while for me to get here. be 31 next month. And so it's kind of taken me a while to

Find My Place was as an aesthetician. we'll probably do one of our podcasts on skincare and all that, because I still love that. I was a makeup artist. Love all that. So yeah, I feel like my love of social justice, obviously being someone who is queer, someone who's worked with a lot of these communities, who also is

a dirty commie from Canada maybe has a little bit of a different spin on and laws and of the inner workings of what it's like to be a trans point within this country. might have some good perspectives there, but I am just a silly noodle, is my certifications. just a girl. So yeah, so that's me.

Cady (43:21) Okay, Sherri-Lynn, do you remember the one time that you submitted a paper that had your thesis as, I'm literally just a girl in all caps?

Sharilyn Wester (43:32) Literally

my rough draft. Yeah, luckily my professor was so good about it. But like so horrendously embarrassing because like that's those are inside thoughts and the one time I decided to make them outside thoughts in writing I actually submitted that to my instructor. So yeah, those are those were inside thoughts. But luckily now we have this lovely podcast as a container for for inside thoughts to come outside thoughts.

Cady (43:56) love that.

my God, we have the same brain cell. I was just gonna say that. I was like, that is a beautiful segue to summarizing this podcast that we are just two girls being gay and talking about our inside thoughts with all of you. And we're super, super excited to be here.

Sharilyn Wester (44:07) Stay brave.

So excited.

Cady (44:21) Before we take off, we a segment called Don't Get Me Started, which what we're gonna be doing is giving each other a topic to rant about at the end of each episode. For our first one, we are going to just talk about our top five musicals. And then moving forward, will be a overtaking turns ranting. So this is our first ever, look at our cute little segment called Don't Get Me Started.

Sharilyn Wester (44:49) I'm so... Don't get me started!

Cady (44:52) Don't get me

Sharilyn Wester (44:52) liberty to yap and rant about something as a woman. Absolutely I do.

Cady (44:57) Yes, I'm like, this is how I know you're neuro spicy and I love you. So top five musicals. literally I had I wrote this. wrote down my notes. Are we are we giving them in ranked order or are we just are we just giving them?

Sharilyn Wester (45:01) Yes.

Okay.

I would say whatever you feel comfortable with, go hard because you have yours very organized and I want to go along with what your brain is telling you feels best.

Cady (45:20) Okay, so mine are not ranked. like, you end up watching this, y'all, I literally had my hand over my mouth. I fucking hate, I hate ranking shit. I hate making decisions. I am fiendishly neutral. I have been called fiendishly neutral. So these are in no particular order. I'm gonna start with what I know is, yeah, I'm gonna start with what I know is a shared one, which is wicked because duh, because I'm sorry, how the fuck were you gonna be 12 years old in 2003?

Sharilyn Wester (45:35) Yeah. You're like gay Switzerland.

Cady (45:49) and not be obsessed with this show. I think I made up that age, like Wicked for sure. Numero uno, have been obsessed since day one. I have tickets to see it on the 20th, which I think is actually when this episode is coming out. my God, I'm going to see Wicked tonight, you guys.

Sharilyn Wester (45:50) you

you

Mm-hmm.

Cady (46:09) So because we split the episodes, this actually is not coming out on the 20th, but I am certain that Wicked was life-changing and my tits did look amazing.

Sharilyn Wester (46:20) You're gonna have so much fun. You look amazing. I love your outfit Wow, your tits look great

Cady (46:25) Thank you. my God, thank you so much. But yeah, no, Wicked Girlie through and through.

Sharilyn Wester (46:29) You're so welcome.

my, actually, do you want to go through all of yours first?

Cady (46:37) Your turn.

No, I think let's go back and forth.

Sharilyn Wester (46:43) Okay, mine, honestly the first one that comes to mind, it's funny because like obviously like for me share this one also I feel like or it's one that's significant to both of us as both catholic and jewish as brothers of abraham prince of egypt

Cady (47:01) Yes.

Sharilyn Wester (47:01) Prince of Egypt, I was listening to that soundtrack. I'll listen to it front to back in my car deliver us. Like I levitate off the road. start hydroplaning because I just like, you know, it's like when you see, you know, very traditional like Baptist churches where they like have to have like the spirit cleanse from them. That's what happens to me. I start like shaking. I love the music of that so much. Hans Zimmer one of my absolute all time favorite composers.

Cady (47:13) Mmm!

Sharilyn Wester (47:30) can't listen to that without crying. I can't watch it without crying. hit me as a child, obviously, because trauma and guilt. now as an adult, it hits me because I'm a mother. just, and like now, you know, when I was little, like I remember like watching it with awe and now like, Moses and Zippor could get it. the queer parts of me is like,

Cady (47:32) Mm-hmm.

yeah.

Sharilyn Wester (47:53) would do, would do, would do, would do all that. Even Jethro, like Big Daddy Jethro.

Cady (47:55) yeah, I had such a crush on, had, honestly, yes, like please daddy don me. Right? Like come on. Dude, yeah, Zipporah is like by far the hottest person in that movie. Dude, okay, I will have to share, maybe we'll post this on the Instagram. I have a picture of me listening to my little cassette walk, man.

of the Prince of Egypt and I distinctly remember my mom telling me, you're going to turn into Moses if you listen to that soundtrack one more time. And I was like, that, okay. I think I used that wrong. I'm a millennial. Don't be mad at me. But like, yeah, I'll have to share that picture. just, soundtrack has been OP from the beginning. I forgot, I forgot that animated was allowed. So

Sharilyn Wester (48:39) Yes, please! Ugh, so good.

Cady (48:46) I only have one animated one on mine besides Prince of Egypt, which actually I'm gonna just steal because I only could come up with four, but Prince of Egypt is definitely on there for me. So we'll take that. So my next animated one is Hercules. good. like, I have run two marathons in my life. One was brought to you by the Hercules soundtrack. The other was brought to you by the Moana soundtrack.

Sharilyn Wester (48:56) Absolutely.

Yes.

Cady (49:16) Singing go the distance to yourself at mile 18 is like a very specific Feeling but I just I love the premise of Hercules I love him feeling like a misfit and needing to find where he belongs and he's too big He's just not aware of his strength. I was like, my god, of course. I love this as a kid because it was me Like young Hercules was me. Yeah The muses are incredible

Sharilyn Wester (49:16) so good.

He has the too much gene of everything. Yeah. And you also famously toppled a marketplace with your strength. Yeah. That's just a fact. Mm-hmm.

Cady (49:46) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 100%. Yeah, just a fact. I will say that I think that like I've rewatched it recently and I was a little like, they could have done more with the love story here. Like it does feel a little suspense of disbelief, but it's fine. But also Megara was one of my first crushes. Like, so hot.

Sharilyn Wester (50:05) Mmm, see Hera in that Hera sparkly pink Hera for me also the also I think panic and pain when they turned into the female horse. That was a hot horse that

Cady (50:18) She's so hot, so hot. That horse is she... Where did they get off making her so hot?

Sharilyn Wester (50:26) I know, her experience styling to the Cimera.

Cady (50:30) Which I've actually never seen.

I know, I know.

Sharilyn Wester (50:32) We're going to remedy that soon.

Okay, Hercules is a really great answer. I actually really like that one because one thing I wasn't overly thinking of was Disney movies and I think maybe Prince of Egypt stood out to me because I think it's a DreamWorks one. honestly, so fucking valid. think, yeah, I love that answer. of my next favorite ones, I think if we're sticking with animated would be Anastasia. heads rise up. loved Anastasia.

remember at one of my vocal recitals singing Once Upon a December and then really cutely my daughter was also taking voice lessons and sang Once Upon a December at one of her as well. Yeah, it's really, really sweet. And so me, just love the animation style of that one. And also just like the history of it. I think we've talked about having those like Princess Diary books.

Cady (51:16) Mm-hmm.

Sharilyn Wester (51:22) And the Anastasia one always just like got me. Yeah. So I'd say Anastasia is my next one.

Cady (51:23) Yeah

Hell yeah, the Romanovs. I have a thing for tragedy. Like, my drunk history would be The Donner Party or Henry VIII's Wives. It would not be the Romanovs because it's too complicated, but I do have a fascination with the Romanovs. And like Marie Antoinette, like I'm here for it, which like, I think we could probably unpack a little bit here, but absolutely. Dude, I feel like I should have included Anastasia, but okay. So I stuck with mostly, well,

Sharilyn Wester (51:44) Me too.

Cady (51:57) of the four that I was able to come up with, three of them were stage musicals. So I guess I am ranking them because I'm saving the best for last. So the next one is Rent, which was like, I, as soon as I saw that was like, I want to be a stripper. I've never been a stripper. I recently went to a strip club and interviewed strippers for, I was helping my friend with a project and I was like, I could totally start doing this. So like, who knows? We'll see. Again, mom isn't listening to this podcast, so whatever.

Sharilyn Wester (52:06) Yes, Rint is good.

Yeah.

Cady (52:26) but like I just, I loved rent as a young adult. I love it as an adult. Now I find it like way more, heavy as an adult because I think I can recognize the context more. Like I just, yeah, I love, I love, I love, I love that show so much. yeah. Yeah.

Sharilyn Wester (52:27) you

love that. That's a great answer. for some reason, I also like had never factored that in, but yes, no, I fucking love that. I think for me straying away from animated musicals, I would say Phantom, Phantom of the Opera, specifically the 2005 film with Gerard Butler, Emmy Rossum and Gerard Butler's package. are the three main characters for me. for me, again,

Cady (53:02) Yeah

Mmm!

Sharilyn Wester (53:17) period pieces I love. I love the costuming in that one. Emmy is so good in that. I, yeah, I could watch it all the time. It's the romanticism of it. It's the drama. It's the tragedy. It's all of that. Yeah, I say Phantom.

Cady (53:29) Mmm!

Okay, and my last one, and this is embarrassing confession. So I totaled my car in December and it was not not because of this show, but this was what I was listening to very, it was not because of this show, just to be clear. It was because people drive too fast on Folsom Boulevard and I was trying to turn left in the Trader Joe's parking lot and they had just moved the entrance and it was a whole thing and I'm still really sad and I miss my Subaru. Anyway, not the point.

point is I was singing One Day More at the fucking top of my lungs because there will never be a better song besides Defying Gravity for a curtain closing to intermission than One Day More from Les Miserables. I will die on that hill. But it is is a competition like like I want them to battle because they're both so good. But

Sharilyn Wester (53:59) you

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Cady (54:23) Now, as a woman in STEM, I obviously had to do my research to prove which of these theories was correct, whether One Day More or Defying Gravity is a better pre-intermission song. And we did determine that it is still One Day More just for the sheer epicness of it, but Defying Gravity is a very, very solid contender. And I am still very stoked to see how it feels at the end of the movie.

Cady (54:50) Les Miserables. It's my shit. The people coming together to rise against plus multiple love stories.

Sharilyn Wester (54:52) Les Mets. Classic.

Cady (54:56) plus Javert, one of the most like lovable villains of all time and has the most beautiful voice. just, I die. I love that show. I love it. I love it. I love it.

Sharilyn Wester (55:08) Love it, love it, love it, love It's been a minute since I've seen Les Mis, but I think I actually did a competition for one of the songs on there. was one about on my own. I sang that at a competition voice. was the, think the only Les Mis song I did. But then it was, and I hadn't even seen Les Mis or like really understood what it was about until.

Cady (55:21) Mmm,

Sharilyn Wester (55:29) I had done that song and I was like damn I wish I would have seen first because then I could have actually understood the gravity upon my own. Yeah.

Cady (55:31) Mmm.

Really, really felt it. Really felt it. Hey, remember that one time your daughter wrote out the lyrics to Castle on a Cloud and pretended like she wrote it?

Sharilyn Wester (55:43) And she tried to write off, she's like, I wrote this poem. I was like, my God. And I remember texting you and Sam and being like, my God, look at what

just wrote. And she's like, that's a real song. She did, my God, plagiarism, stolen valor. would say my last one would probably, Chicago. Chicago, I love Chicago. That also.

Cady (55:54) That's a real song. She didn't write that.

Mmm, hot.

Sharilyn Wester (56:07) watching that early on seeing like women in lingerie who like getting revenge who are like, fuck the system, who are all about like, all about the jazz and the drink and all of that, like in the moita, like in Chicago, I just I loved it. And like Richard Geren that could get it. Catherine Zeta Jones also was a huge, huge crush for me still is. But also like as a young, young woman seeing that, because I think he came out in like 2005. So I must have been like 12.

Cady (56:12) Mm, mm, mm, mm, so hot.

Sharilyn Wester (56:37) that also she yeah her makeup in that also was like a huge inspiration and huge push for me to become a makeup artist because i remember i would watch it over and over again and just like look at what they did and like it's so good but yeah but all the songs on that sublock tango all fucking run through a wall to that song i'll flip my car yeah i'm coming for that garb rail hates to see me coming when that comes on yeah

Cady (56:55) Mm. Mm.

I literally did too soon.

Susan! I miss her.

Sharilyn Wester (57:05) okay. I think that's the, I think that's our, our, rant. That's it.

Cady (57:10) That's it folks. Yeah. Rate, review, subscribe, all the things. Thank you for being here. We're so excited. Thank you for listening to us. Yap. We're really excited to yap for and with you. and yeah, rate, rate, review, subscribe, send us questions, send us guests, all the things. we will be adding listener questions, as we start receiving them. So you can send your questions to needy podcast, mailbag at gmail.com. and we're.

Sharilyn Wester (57:23) Mm-hmm. Yeah, send us questions. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Cady (57:40) We're so excited. Y'all are great. We'll see you soon.

Sharilyn Wester (57:41) We're so excited. Yeah. Bye, guys.

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